tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3561726959150987222.post1624951132384844775..comments2023-06-06T06:33:55.098-05:00Comments on Whallah!: Some Comments On CommentingOther Sidehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/06475658453374184885noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3561726959150987222.post-51813690596818683992008-01-31T16:05:00.000-06:002008-01-31T16:05:00.000-06:00ignats, the poor could get poorer and the rich ric...ignats, the poor could get poorer and the rich richer without a transfer of wealth from poor to rich. It could work like this: the rich sell a product or service that other rich people want to buy. They get rich. How would this involve a transfer of wealth from poor to rich? Again, for the third time, I don't wish to discuss Mark Belling with you. I will leave to your fertile imagination what I think of him.Denis Navratilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05973310336665077770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3561726959150987222.post-3936018341883474982008-01-31T09:37:00.000-06:002008-01-31T09:37:00.000-06:00An elision. I get it: You like Mark Belling and yo...An elision. I get it: You like Mark Belling and you don't think that the poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer. I don't care who you are, stranger or familiar, I would call bs on anyone who made the same unknowing comments.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3561726959150987222.post-72622881192664336682008-01-30T21:00:00.000-06:002008-01-30T21:00:00.000-06:00You haven't proven your point at all ignats. Trans...You haven't proven your point at all ignats. Transferring wealth from the poor is an absurdity. It can't be done. Policies can favor the rich but that is different. Anyway, you keep wanting to get back to Mark Belling for some reason. It seems you would like to paint me as a racist. Are you always so charitable with strangers?Denis Navratilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05973310336665077770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3561726959150987222.post-74769513230076003102008-01-30T17:00:00.000-06:002008-01-30T17:00:00.000-06:00I'd point you in the direction of a little documen...I'd point you in the direction of a little document that explains it. It's called Title 26 of the U.S. Code. Also, reference any budget document, any of the rules governing HMOs and pension plans and any number of a plethora of regulations, statutes and threshhold requirements that seek to limit the benefits for the small end of the food chain without a consonant change on the other end. Look at NLRB rulings, SBA loans and loan requirments, standards for Medicare and Medicaid, and any of a host of thousands of decisions, big and small, that have tilted the system. The proof is in the pudding and creating a fog by debating causality does not diminish the very words of this administration's adherents, who say explicitly the things that are suspected: "Wealth creates wealth." "Greed is good." "Starve the beast."<BR/><BR/>As Mr. Buffett has said, "If it's class warfare, we know which class is winning."<BR/><BR/>Also, will you associate yourself with Belling's racist comments that suggest that Lena Taylor takes orders from street gangs?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3561726959150987222.post-50371916965637954852008-01-30T15:01:00.000-06:002008-01-30T15:01:00.000-06:00ignats, you claim that there are government figure...ignats, you claim that there are government figures to support the notion that our tax system has resulted in "the largest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in the world's history?" Can you provide that data please? Just because someone gets rich doesn't mean that the wealth was transferred from the poor. Really that ought to be obvious. Transferring money from the poor is like extracting water from a rock. Now you might argue that the tax cuts have resulted in great wealth for some Americans, but it is an entirely different matter to suggest that the wealth was transferred from the poor. Regarding your other ideas and questions, I didn't comment on them, they are a seperate matter, and they have nothing to do with whether wealth was or was not transferred from the poor to the rich. One topic at a time is my motto.Denis Navratilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05973310336665077770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3561726959150987222.post-42362771799426088862008-01-30T10:42:00.000-06:002008-01-30T10:42:00.000-06:00They have no wealth, but they have income. The pro...They have no wealth, but they have income. The progressive tax system, which was a hallmark of earlier Republican administrations from halcyon days, has been dismantled in the Bush administration and under Republican Congresses. The government's own figures have documented this transfer and to deny is folly. A syllogism doesn't double for thought. And is that your only quibble? Do you deny the racism of Belling's insinuations, the obscenity of "preemptive" war, the profanity of using the words of Church to justify any hatred? I know we are being civil here, but that does not mean we must be simple.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3561726959150987222.post-80853734058061964552008-01-29T18:41:00.000-06:002008-01-29T18:41:00.000-06:00ignats, perhaps you will explain how to transfer w...ignats, perhaps you will explain how to transfer wealth from the poor to the rich? The poor, by definition, have no wealth to transfer.Denis Navratilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05973310336665077770noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3561726959150987222.post-16729072890895335892008-01-29T09:59:00.000-06:002008-01-29T09:59:00.000-06:00You're giving them more regard and treating them w...You're giving them more regard and treating them with more dignity than they would do with you. One need look no further than the plainly racist statements made by Belling against Lena Taylor (will Walker associate himself with those comments?).<BR/><BR/>I'll say it again, what's more obscene than a hare-brained war in which young men and women die? What's more personally abhorrent than toddlers missing preventive care, or a tax system that has presided over the largest transfer of wealth from the poor to the rich in the world's history? Is the debate more poisoned by using a few ad hominem comments, or by invoking the sanctity of the church in advancing hatred?<BR/><BR/>With their breezy, unknowingly transparent disregard for the least powerful, and with the bile they use to demonize anyone in opposition to their minority views, the members of the rightist chattering class have certainly earned any bad words that might come their way. I am of the opinion that they earned yet more than that.<BR/><BR/>But I guess I get it: No need to get into a p--ing contest with skunks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com