Wednesday, February 18, 2009

The UnAmerican Fischer

Tonight, the Franklin Common Council spat on the U.S. Constitution and the State's Constitution.

The UnAmerican Fischer celebrates.

Why does he hate America so much?
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14 comments:

  1. AnonymousFebruary 20, 2009 at 10:26 AM

    How is this spitting on the Constitution? And how is he Un-American?

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  2. AnonymousFebruary 20, 2009 at 10:39 PM

    *cricket chirp*

    *echoooo*

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  3. capperFebruary 20, 2009 at 11:57 PM

    Gee, Mr. Preston, I'm sorry my life doesn't revolve around your schedule.

    Anyway, the First Amendment guarantees the right to petition the government.

    Franklin's law prevents that. Of course, by reading the post from the first link, one would have known that.

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  4. AnonymousFebruary 23, 2009 at 10:47 AM

    I see the allegation, but I don't see the 2+2=4 logic behind it.

    As for my lame attempts at humor. Please accept my apology. I'll do better in the future. I'm sorry that you may have been offened by them.

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  5. AnonymousFebruary 23, 2009 at 4:17 PM

    Opinions and allegations are great, but I'm sure that we can both agree that supported arguements seem stronger than mere opinion.

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  6. capperFebruary 23, 2009 at 10:11 PM

    No need for apologies, but the humor would have been better if there was more time between posts.

    I always enjoy a good discussion, even, or even especially, when we disagree.

    The point is that people in MKE petitioned the city to address a grievance. In response, all of the suburbs have, or in the process of, trying to prevent their citizens from exercising that right.

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  7. AnonymousFebruary 24, 2009 at 8:36 AM

    Thank you again for your feelings and opinion on the subject. However, where is the smoking gun? I see nothing in this that would stop anyone from petitioning their local government.

    And FYI: I'm not saying that I disagree. I'm sayting that I don't understand.

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  8. capperFebruary 24, 2009 at 9:33 PM

    Franklin, like many of the other burbs, have passed resolutions keeping their citizens from petitioning the gov't regarding paid sick days.

    That is in violation of the Constitution.

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  9. AnonymousFebruary 25, 2009 at 9:03 AM

    I have really tried very hard to avoid saying this, but No. You are wrong. That is not what passed.

    http://www.dwd.state.wi.us/ Everyone still has the right to petition Wis DWD regarding their rights in the workplace. They can even take their employer to court if they do not like the results from DWD.

    What passed is that Franklin "cannot require Franklin private employers to provide "particular wages or benefits" to their employees." It does nothing to stop anyone from asking for anything.

    So, I'll ask the question again. How do you get a violation of the Constitution out of this?

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  10. capperFebruary 25, 2009 at 9:26 PM

    Franklin et alia are trying to avoid what Milwaukee is going through, by passing a law that effectively removes the rights of the citizens to petition the government for a paid sick leave law. That is the plain and simple of it.

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  11. AnonymousFebruary 26, 2009 at 8:57 AM

    "...that effectively removes the rights of the citizens to petition the government for a paid sick leave law. That is the plain and simple of it."

    Would you please be so kind to please Prove it?

    I see their efforts to prevent the local government from requiring Franklin private employers to provide "particular wages or benefits" to their employees."

    But I see NOTHING about removing the rights of the citizens to petition the government.

    Please prove it.

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  12. capperFebruary 26, 2009 at 10:41 PM

    Well, what do you suppose would happen if the citizens of Franklin did like they did in Milwaukee, and submitted a legal petition for businesses to have to provide paid sick leave?

    Either the law they just passed becomes moot, or they ignore the Constitution and the will of the people.

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  13. AnonymousFebruary 27, 2009 at 11:54 AM

    Who says it was a legal petition that passed in Milwaukee? Last I heard, that issue is being reviewed in court.

    http://www.milwaukee.gov/der/PSLO

    Just because a law passes, does not mean it's Constitutional.

    The Constitution has built in protections commonly called the balance of power. In part, it's meant to prevent the tyranny of the majority. Just because you say it's the will of the people, doesn't make it right aka Constitutional.

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  14. capperFebruary 27, 2009 at 10:38 PM

    I accede to your point on Constitutionality, but it is my understanding that the lawsuit is based more on the wording and the enforceability of the law rather than the Constitutionality of it.

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